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Flag Patches and Uniforms

One thing that has bugged me ever since I first saw it is the use of the flag patch on Army uniforms.  I'm not against having the patch -- that's fine -- what bugs me are some of the details.  The largest of which is the fact that the flag patch is secondary to a combat unit patch.  In my opinion, nothing should ever be put in a more prominent position than the US flag on a US military uniform.  This article describes the current policy for placement of the flag on Army uniforms, both for deployed and non-deployed soldiers.  To quote:

Army regulations call for the flag to be sewn on the right sleeve, one half-inch below the shoulder seam. If a combat patch is also placed on the right shoulder, the flag is sewn 1/8 inch below the combat patch.

Apart from the fact that this is disrespectful to the flag and rather egotistical on the part of the unit whose patch is displayed higher than the flag, it's also a practical issue.  Every soldier who ships out to a combat zone the first time has the flag in its proper place, at the top of their right sleeve.  However, after 90 days (or whenever their unit decides to have a ceremony and issue them), they receive combat patches and the authorization to wear them.  At that point, the flag gets a back seat to the unit, and torn off the uniform and then re-sewn somewhere below the unit patch.

I am, however, pleased to see that the Army's new uniform, announced last summer, does away with this embarrassment.  You can see the new uniform described here, including a picture displaying the placement of the flag patch and unit patches.

And for those interested in flag display guidance, you'll find the US Flag Code a good place to start.

Another thing I'm not too keen on is the fact that the flag is backwards.  I understand the intent, which you'll find explained here, but it seems to me that both the backward flag confusion and the issue of the flag being secondary to the combat patch could have been avoided if the US Flag (unreversed) were worn on the top of the left shoulder.  I'm sure somebody somewhere came up with a reason why it should be on the right shoulder, but I'm also pretty sure I could make an equally compelling argument for the left.  The new uniforms keep the backward (er, sorry, “reverse field”) flag, but at least it is kept in a place of proper respect.

Published Saturday, November 27, 2004 11:44 AM by ssmith

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ssmith said:

Totally agree. Glad to see the ACU is changing it.
November 27, 2004 11:47 AM
 

ssmith said:

I have a loved one that is headed to your FOB and I was wondering how may soldiers have been KIA while you have been in FOB Bernstein?

Thank You and God Bless
November 27, 2004 5:00 PM
 

ssmith said:

Hi Steve,
Unrelated to the flag patches, but had you heard that the Hickory Cafe at Caldwell made national news? The Associated Press ran a story on it a few days ago. I found it on a site with free access for you to check out (it's a little long, sorry!):

http://www.dailyadvance.com/news/content/gen/ap/NC_Iraq_Coffee_House.html;COXnetJSessionID=BsY7c6Q5P8LP74dLIA4Oz0iJWn1h8qXyO3XAndaTDl2dONlE8u04!1734112277?urac=n&urvf=11018465875730.22872248270859086
November 30, 2004 3:34 PM
 

ssmith said:

Wow, that's really way too long. Sorry! Searching by keywords on google may be an easier way to find it.
November 30, 2004 3:35 PM
 

ssmith said:

the flag goes on the right side to go along with the military custom of the highest ranking person stands to the right. This custom was started long ago when knights had to defend kings and nobelmen. With thier weapon in their right hand and thier shield in their left they had the option of using either to defend the "valued" person, with a swing of thier sword or reaching over with shield.
March 8, 2005 1:14 PM
 

ssmith said:

So, what your saying is that when the wind blows from left to right of an observer, the flag is being properly displayed; but if the wind changes direction and blows from right to left the flag is all of a sudden backwards?!?!
September 12, 2005 11:02 AM
 

slem said:

When you have a flag on a flagpole and you are moving forward with the flag what way is the flag facing, That is why it is reversed. Because the army believes that the flag should always move forward.
May 12, 2006 5:19 AM
 

chris ledbetter said:

my family has a long milirtary history from the revoultionary war to desert storm and i think that in war you have no time to think should i put the flag here or ....here because in that instant a bomb or mortar could drop in and kill you so i think it does not disrespect the flag or put it backwards it just a way they do it so dont diss on the way they do it unless youre in the military and a high ranking officer than you decide but for now you have no say what so ever
June 8, 2006 2:55 PM
 

ssmith said:

Chris,
I'm pretty sure that being a veteran myself trumps anything my great-great-grand-daddy might have done in some other era, in terms of how much weight my opinion carries.  Regardless, all Americans are welcome to express their opinion about the flag that represents our nation or, given 1st Amendment rights, anything else for that matter.  As to whether or not doing so will change things, that's another story, but it's foolish to say that only high ranking military officers have your permission to discuss the matter.
My issue with disrespecting the flag had more to do with placing it in a secondary position to an army unit patch than its backward nature.  And as I mentioned, it would be easy enough to solve both issues by simply placing it on the opposite shoulder, at the top.  This is an old post - the new ACUs have addressed this concern so that it is no longer an issue.
June 8, 2006 3:53 PM
 

窃听器 said:

Good ! thank the author.

July 16, 2007 6:44 AM
 

TRANCE TORRENT @ TRANCE13TORRENT@GMAIL.COM said:

I WOULD APPRECIATE IT GREATLY IF SOMEONE WOULD INFORM ME OF THE EXACT DATE, MONTH, AND YEAR THAT THE FLAG PLACEMENT CHANGED FROM THE LEFT ARM AND NORMAL APPEARANCE TO THE RIGHT AND FLIPPED. ALSO OF INTEREST TO ME IS EXACTLY WHEN THE BIG FLAG IN THE BACKGROUND BEHIND THE SPEAKER OF THE HOUSE WAS REVERSED. A CURIOSITY: IN THE VIDEO FOOTAGE OF PRESIDENT BUSH IN THE SCHOOL ROOM ON 9/11, HE IS HOLDING THE BOOK UPSIDE DOWN WHEN INFORMED BY A WHISPERING AIDE, AND UPON THE COVER CAN BE SEEN THE FLAG UPSIDE DOWN. IS THIS THE ORIGIN OF THE IDEA OF REVERSING THE FLAG? BECAUSE THE PRESIDENT HAD ACCIDENTALLY TURNED THE BOOK UPSIDE DOWN UPON HEARING OF OUR COUNTRIES GREATEST TRAGEDY? PLEASE CONTACT ME AT TRANCE13TORRENT@GMAIL.COM WITH DATES OF DECISIONS TO FLIP THE FLAG. GOD BLESS AMERICA!

July 23, 2007 3:04 PM
 

TRANCE TORRENT @ TRANCE13TORRENT@GMAIL.COM said:

I WOULD APPRECIATE IT GREATLY IF SOMEONE WOULD INFORM ME OF THE EXACT DATE, MONTH, AND YEAR THAT THE FLAG PLACEMENT CHANGED FROM THE LEFT ARM AND NORMAL APPEARANCE TO THE RIGHT AND FLIPPED. ALSO OF INTEREST TO ME IS EXACTLY WHEN THE BIG FLAG IN THE BACKGROUND BEHIND THE SPEAKER OF THE HOUSE WAS REVERSED. A CURIOSITY: IN THE VIDEO FOOTAGE OF PRESIDENT BUSH IN THE SCHOOL ROOM ON 9/11, HE IS HOLDING THE BOOK UPSIDE DOWN WHEN INFORMED BY A WHISPERING AIDE, AND UPON THE COVER CAN BE SEEN THE FLAG UPSIDE DOWN. IS THIS THE ORIGIN OF THE IDEA OF REVERSING THE FLAG? BECAUSE THE PRESIDENT HAD ACCIDENTALLY TURNED THE BOOK UPSIDE DOWN UPON HEARING OF OUR COUNTRIES GREATEST TRAGEDY? PLEASE CONTACT ME AT TRANCE13TORRENT@GMAIL.COM WITH DATES OF DECISIONS TO FLIP THE FLAG. GOD BLESS AMERICA!

July 23, 2007 3:05 PM
 

TRANCE TORRENT! said:

HEY, MAN! I MADE MY COMMENT IN ORDER TO GET INFORMATION, AND I DID NOT EXPECT TO BE CENSORED SO MUCH AS TO OBLITERATE MY NEED FOR INFORMATION!

July 23, 2007 3:08 PM
 

TRANCE13TORRENT@GMAIL.COM said:

PLEASETELLMETHEDATEOFTHEFIRSTCHANGEFROMLEFTTORIGHTOFTHEFLAGONOURSOLIDIERSUNIFORMS!

July 23, 2007 3:10 PM
 

Steve said:

Trance - I have no idea.  Learn how to use the SPACEBAR and CAPS LOCK keys properly.  Thanks.

July 23, 2007 9:44 PM
 

Jenks said:

Thank you so much for a very informative blog.  I'm making a shirt for my son to wear in tomorrow's Veteran's Day Parade and wanted to place a flag on his sleve.  I know that Flag placement is very important, and now I know what side to put it on.

November 7, 2008 9:41 PM
 

Tom said:

I don't understand how Americans can allow Our Flag to be displayed backward by our military for the whole world to see.

Did someone sew an entire order backward and "receiving" said "Thats O.K. we'll find a use for them somewear ?"

God bless America and please God bless the idiot(s) who chose to represent America backward and make them change it!

February 7, 2009 4:49 PM
 

Jenny said:

Interesting...I Googled the exact same question because my 10 year old son noticed, and brought it to my attention. It seemed wrong to him! After explaining to him why it's done, he understood, and carried on his business of playing.

There are far more other things wrong with the world today we can focus our attention on and try to change, don't you think?  :)

God bless our troops, and stay safe!

February 26, 2009 6:48 PM
 

1LT MPH said:

I believe that it has always been acceptable to wear the flar in the reversed position when the country is at war. I learned flag code when I was in AFJROTC in 1997 well before Pres. GW Bush was in office or 09/11/01

July 9, 2009 1:14 AM
 

1LT MPH said:

"flar" was supposed to be flag, I apologize

July 9, 2009 1:15 AM

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About ssmith

Enlisted in 1995. Basic at Ft Sill. AIT at Ft Jackson (75F). Served in Ohio National Guard. Went through ROTC program at Ohio State University and received 2LT commission in 1997, Engineer branch. Spent about 4 years in 16th Engineer Brigade in Ohio National Guard, then moved far from nearest unit and went into Inactive National Guard, and eventually Individual Ready Reserve. Called up from IRR in 2004 for duty in Iraq (Engineer Platoon Leader with 1st ID). Made it home in 2005. Resigned commission as a CPT in December 2005.